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SERIK
SULTANGALIEV General Director KazTranGas
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Kazakhstan
is performing extremely well: Since its independence
in '91 it successfully embarked on a political and economic
reform. It has enormous potential for foreign investment
and long-term economic growth. All macro-economic Indicators
confirm and this is being acknowledged more and more
internationally: Kazakhstan will join the WTO, Kazakhstan
has joined the WEF-list of competitive economies and
so on
. What would you say it is that differentiates
Kazakhstan so strongly from other CIS-countries?
I
can explain it to you. I'm very proud that I have the
Kazakh nationality. I think that we, Kazakhs and Americans,
are very likeminded and I was quite lucky to visit the
United States in 1993. I visited Los Angeles, California,
where I was taken in by a family. After the Iron Curtain
had fallen, for us it was just amazing to see your country.
I was born in a small village, in the Almaty Oblast.
I think that economic stability can be explained by
the people of the country, Kazakhs are very hospitable
and friendly by nature, they respect elderly people,
now, of course, we have got, maybe, the international
upbringing, being part of the Soviet Union, and during
WW2 by Stalin's order many minorities just were made
to move to Kazakhstan and Central Asia republics, it
was deportation, maybe you know about that. We have
more than 130 nationalities living here and it was a
good mixture that we got assimilated and in some way
it all ensured stability. I know the history of the
Kazakhs, and I can for sure tell you this, that the
Kazakhs have never been nationalists, and have never
had any negative properties and qualities, which are
unfortunately displayed in the countries, in the states
which end with '- Stan'. I think that it's not only
the American problem, it causes the problem for America,
but it causes the problem for all of us. And it's so
nice that the United States look at Kazakhstan from
a different angle, with different eyes.
The
United States indeed considers Kazakhstan to be a strategic
partner. They also understand the importance of this
country within the whole Central Asian Region. To put
it in the words of Secretary of State Ms. Condoleezza
Rice: "It is pulling the whole Central-Asian region
forward, both economically and politically".
Of
course, we cannot blame Americans that they do not know
much about the country such as our or any other countries,
which end with '-Stan', and although we are a big country,
we are very far from the United States. And it's very
nice that the US pays much attention to us now. Especially
that event that took place in Washington: watching it
on TV made me so happy. I heard the comments of very
big persons, VIPs of your country. Kazakhs are always
open, with all heart and soul, as much as any other
nation in the world. God blessed us with oil and gas
and other riches, which constitute the basis of our
economy.
The
Oil & Gas sector indeed still is the backbone of
Kazakh economy. Because of its significant proven reserves
and sound policies it is poised to become an increasingly
important player over the next decade. With a targeted
production level of 3,5 million bbl/day by 2015, Kazakhstan
has the potential to indeed become the 5th largest producer
worldwide
What are the main challenges the industry
is facing in achieving these targets?
First
of all we need the help of investors, American investors.
We need the support of international, well known companies.
What we also need is continued stability and peace in
the region. Due to my position I have already visited
within this short period of time all the states, wherever
there is gas issue, I have visited Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenia,
Tajikistan. And that American patriotism of which American
citizens are so proud, it started to grow here also
among our population, we have started to be patriotic.
Especially when you go to those countries, our neighboring
countries, and you see that they are less developed
and you know that we are pushing them forward, fills
you with pride of your country. When you participate
in negotiations, you sit with pride because you know
that your country has achieved a lot of success. I think
it's the worst thing when a person does not like his
own country, does not love his country, because of problems
related to his lifestyle, quality of life, unemployment,
low salaries, lack of light in the house, no gas in
the house. In all those regions there is political instability.
We also have had to come through that period, pass through
those times, successfully.
KazTransGaz
plays a very important, pivotal role in the overall
development of the country's gas sector and not only
in the management of the Gas Transportation Network.
For our readers understanding, how would you describe
this role?
Within
this short period of time we have done so much and I
feel quite a pleasant tiredness because we do so much.
When the Soviet Union was created, it was built not
by silly people. The infrastructure was built in such
a way that no other republic could survive by itself;
there was dependence between them. In spite of our sovereignty,
Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Russia, Ukraine and other countries
can survive without each other. We have all had our
role in the economy. We cannot bear without each other,
and we have to be together because we are united through
the pipelines, which we commonly share, which we have
to share.
Today
KazTransGaz is not the company, which only transports
gas, we now also develop our own Kazakhstani gas. Let
me tell you about some of our projects: The first project
is Amangeldy oil field. The geological surveys prove
that we have trillions of gas reserves. That of course
is not enough. You need the infrastructure: if you don't
have the infrastructure you cannot develop. With just
the small Amangeldy field where we produce around 350
ml cubic meters per year which can provide one-forth
of the amount which we generally procure from Uzbekistan.
Last year we commissioned a facility processing associated
gas.
And
on top of transportation and development of gas this
year we became responsible for management of an energy
company Almaty Power Consolidated (APC). This has been
transferred to us by the Government. Before it belonged
to Tractebel, now part of Suez. It's logical, because
we supply gas to those facilities. There are some financial
settlements between us. And I think that the Government
made a good decision.
This
must have made the Akim of Almaty very happy
He
is happy. For us it's of ourse generating a lot of additional
work. We'll have to invest a lot of money into those
facilities. We recently procured one more hydroelectric
station in Aktobe. And we have experience of working
with the Dzhambul hydroelectric power station, which
is very unique and one of our biggest hydropower stations.
And while we have such big power stations, we decided
to set up a big holding. So, you see we are not only
active in gas transportation and development. This is
in large part thanks to our managers of the middle ranking
which are very successful, very skillful. Managers of
the middle class are very professional, they know their
business. President of our country always insisted on
sending our children to study abroad. We developed a
State Program - Bolashak - under which young people
are sent abroad to study. Private companies, as well
domestic as international, on their own also finance
education of our children abroad.
For
the first time in our experience, we were able to defend
our tariffs increase. It's very difficult to prove to
Gazprom that there is indeed a need to increase tariffs.
But we did it at the highest level. It's our first victory.
And it's a big victory because now we are getting money
through the increase of tariffs, we are getting more
money and it means that we'll be able to put the money
not only in the refurbishment and restructuring of the
existing facilities and infrastructure, but we'll allocate
money for social programs in order to support our employees,
to increase their salaries and social wellbeing. We
started to build good quality houses for our employees.
Don't forget that they are often working in remote places,
far in the steppes where we have our compressor stations.
They used to live in very small shacks, in wagons. Such
people work on the rotation basis, they come to the
compressor station every other fortnight for a two-week
period and they have to live in wagons. This year for
the first time we were able to build houses for them
with lots of comfort and convenience. Here in Astana
you can see everything, it's beautiful, it's understandable,
but when you create such conditions in remote places
for our employees it's a different story, it's a development
of the company.
One
of your main targets is to triple the amount of produced
gas by 2010. What are the main investment opportunities
that exist for American companies to help you achieve
this goal?
I'm
waiting for a huge delegation from the US to come on
16 November. Their representatives have already been
here. I gave them a chance to know about our activities,
to learn about our investment programs. They studied
all the information, which was accessible for them and
now they are sending their practitioners. There are
a lot of American technologies we are interested in.
We'll be talking about compressor stations, which are
produced in the US, we'll talk about the high techs
which are available in the US, to compress gas, into
a container, and this container will be taken to some
remote settlement and you do not need to build a gas
pipeline which is expensive, you can bring that container.
It'll be heating the whole region. We hope many energy
projects and specialists will join this delegation.
We
understand many opportunities also exist in the development
of the petrochemical sector.
There
are so many topics to discuss around this business.
That's why such a big delegation from the US is coming
because there are so many opportunities here. And we'll
have serious and fruitful talks. And I think that of
what I have mentioned 70% can be achieved and implemented
via this negotiation process.
Our
President initiated it (the American delegation), generally
all the initiatives are coming from him. He is very
busy and I sincerely wish him good health. He's taking
the control over the whole situation in the country,
in big areas, and even in small areas, big business
and in small business. Business would not have survived
in this country without him because I know it I have
worked in the area of private business for 10 years.
This
was all very new for us. During Soviet times we were
all equal, and when somebody moved forward and earned
more money than others, some people found it hard to
accept. Then our President, Mr. Nazarbayev, said that
nobody should interfere with business, let businessmen
do their business. And just an example, companies can
divest in facilities, which are not profitable for them,
you can get rid of a sun-spa, which doesn't bring you
revenues, you can sell it. The mentality of a Soviet
state official wasn't like this - they will not do anything
but at the same time they will not let other people
who had business skills to develop business and to do
something with such things which are generating loss.
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